Defo Club Ketjep
Defo
Graffiti Artist

Describe yourself, your background and what you do today.
When I was just a kid I used to draw on the corners of tables. In 1992, I saw some bad boys painting walls at sports school. That day, I discovered a whole new world: a dark world where I was able to draw and be recognised by a pseudonym, rather than physically. Today I try to survive and keep painting while polishing my work and constantly calling it into question.

How has where you come from shaped who you are?
What really shaped my work is my perseverance and attention to detail, rather than where I come from.

How would you describe your attitude to work?
I have quite an unstable attitude, mixing various styles of schizophrenia.

On a personal note, what would you say you’re the proudest of?
I’m proud I never gave up even when everyone wanted to see me fall. And it’s not over yet.

To you, what is a Ketje?
It means a lot to me because my father was from the Marolles, so I know about Brussels. To me, a ketje is a neighbourhood kid.

If you had to nominate three people that, to you, best symbolised Belgium in its full glory, who would they be and why?
Félicien Rops, because he didn’t care about power.
Benoît Poelvoorde, because he showed his true self, despites the sharp tongues and his health condition.
Annick Wilmotte, because she fought fiercely for the protection of Antarctic.

If you had to take visiting guests out on a Sunday tourist trail, where would you take them and why?
I don’t think I could only pick one place; I would rather show them all the neighbourhoods and their communities because it’s that melting pot that defines Belgium today.

Sauces, in Belgium at least, are intrinsically linked to French fries. What’s your combination of choice?
I’m not really into mixing sauces; taste matters to me and I like the classics. If I had to combine two, I’d mix aioli with pepper sauce.

Tell us about the first time you discovered BK sauces.
I first got to try their ketjep at a BK sauce event.

Can you recollect your best Belgian joke ever?
“Tich à l’église” by Virgile.

Why do Belgians do it better?
Because they manage to do interesting things based on simple ideas and with few resources. Plus, we don’t complicate things.